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Title: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1RC on April 27, 2007, 05:46:45 AM
First Request - I want to hear Timtron do a live rendition of "Piss Weak Mobile Blues"!

73,

MrMike
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Poohpah on April 27, 2007, 08:34:49 AM
Will there be a microphonium and amp?
How about the Viking doing Dropkick Murphy's version of "Charlie on the MTA"?
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1RC on April 27, 2007, 09:42:02 AM
I'll take this up with our Director of On-Site Communications, Mr Smith himself.  If he doesn't come up with something can anyone bring something?

MrM


Will there be a microphonium and amp?
How about the Viking doing Dropkick Murphy's version of "Charlie on the MTA"?

Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: n1wil on April 27, 2007, 12:27:29 PM
If someone can bring some long XLR cables (I don't have any really long ones)  we can mike them up and put them over the air on 90.5FM.  I do have an 800Watt PA system with speakers and tripods from my mobile DJ days - this sound system is extremely loud, but it is HEAVY!

I'd hope to go the XLR/Cable route since most everyone will undoubtedly have access to an FM radio nearby and that should distribute the sound just as well if everyone tunes in.

Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1RC on April 27, 2007, 12:48:11 PM
Maybe it'd be easier to bring the jam session to you ;~)

If someone can bring some long XLR cables (I don't have any really long ones)  we can mike them up and put them over the air on 90.5FM. 


Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Poohpah on April 27, 2007, 02:10:59 PM
I think the idea of having the Jam session at the stage area is the best way to go.

In the past there were a lot of complaints from not only the neighbors outside the Fair grounds but also from people attending the Fest who were close to the 'noise'.
Many people want to sleep and not be disturbed and if they know that the stage is where the loud music will be then they can park away from it if they want. I remember the JAM sessions going till 4 or 5 in the morning with 'Strings' playing Jimmy Hendrix's version of the Star Bangle Banner at the conclusion.
In the past N1ZZN, with his broadcash station, would bring a wireless mic to the jam sessions to broadcast the music. That worked nicely.
Q
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1AC on April 27, 2007, 02:19:50 PM
First Request - I want to hear Timtron do a live rendition of "Piss Weak Mobile Blues"!

73,

MrMike


Mike,

I volunteer to perform "The White Collar Holler" and selected works by Tom Lehrer.

Bill
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: N1ZZN on April 27, 2007, 05:28:12 PM
If I can figure out a way to do it, I'd like to broadcast the jam session on my 103.1 as well.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: k1kfi on April 27, 2007, 09:29:32 PM
...find or tune a low power FM transmitter(stereo) at the live feed to a frequency not in use
and tune it in on an FM reciever...then rebroadcast that audio on your frequency. Kind of like a 'marti', You'll lose some fidelity, but, you'll at least have 'program' audio to work with....just my 2 cents...

I have one in my house and tune my clock radio to it, the program is mp3 music on computer in a fairly long playlist. I find this better than most of what I hear on the FM band! And I can wake up to my favorites!


Can't wait!

Cliff
K1kfi

PS: the transmit antenna can be as simple as a receiver dipole....with a range of say 30-500 feet. I can drive that far and still hear it!
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: N1ZZN on April 28, 2007, 05:57:04 AM
Someone else suggested that as well, great idea! I'll be using a different transmitter this time, so the one I've used in the past is available. All I'll need is a mic/amp to feed into it.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: n1wil on April 28, 2007, 12:08:57 PM
I am checking into a few things.  If we are able to be located near the stage area, and get some long XLR cables, we can easily mike up the Jam Session and Jeff, you are more than welcome to rebroadcast.  There would be minimal loss of fedelity if any.  We can also record in real time for "archival" purposes for download from www.pirateshipradio.com 

We will have professional sound facilities at our booth so there are MANY high quality options available.

I am working on getting the cables from a friend for the mike feed as we speak.  If we have room, I'll also throw in our 800 watt PA amp and speakers as a bonus.

 ;)

Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: N1ZZN on April 28, 2007, 03:41:51 PM
Sounds good. If you're able to get a broadcast going, we will join forces together and simulcast the jam session.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Captain Kliegle on April 29, 2007, 12:12:53 PM
I have 300W Solid State amp, two large band speakers, a 5 channel mixer board, and two mics (w/XLR connectors).
I was gonna use them for the AM 650 PA system during the day.... by night they could be transfered up to the stage for the session.

Shall I bring or not bring the goods?

Kriss KA1GJU
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: n1wil on April 30, 2007, 09:59:27 AM
Kriss,

VERY nice!  I actually did some working of the logistics on my end too...  we will be able to transport my 800Watt Peavey Amp and 2 sound reinforcement speakers with tripods.  I would love it if you could bring your mixer and XLR cables if your mixer has an XLR output.  We are planning to run a balanced XLR line back to our broadcast booth if we could get a mixer at the stage.  We have an available balanced XLR input channel on our broadcast board. 

This "feed" would be run about 20 feet up in the trees back to our board so that people won'tbe walking/tripping, or driving over it. 

Does your board have a balanced XLR output, and would you be willing to bring it?  Maybe we can pool our resources together and set this up for a gangbuster show both on the air and live.

Let me know your thoughts and what you can do, would love to hear it.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: KB1FRW on May 01, 2007, 09:25:03 PM
Where is the "jam session" going to be? This will allow myself and others who may want to sleep to set up as far away as possible though in some respects I'm not sure why I should have to move to the outback, I paid for a ticket too.
I think that if we are trying to get established here that noise volume and lateness should be restrained for the neighbors and festees that don't want to party half the night. Everything in moderation.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: N1ZZN on May 01, 2007, 11:42:03 PM
That is a very good point. I've been hearing that same thing from a lot of people that I know that are going too. If there's going to be these huge speakers set up, outdoors on a stage, a lot of people are not going to be happy. Rochester was good, since everything was contained in a building.

Hopefully it will stay under control so that we'll be invited back in the fall!
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: HenryB on May 02, 2007, 05:08:08 AM
The way it was done at Rochester was the way to go-it was in the exam building and shut down at midnight. Remember those who do want to get some rest! And remember next fall-we want to be there.

K1WCC
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1RC on May 02, 2007, 05:19:03 AM
This NEAR-Fest we will have to do it outside.  The only buildings we have available are the commercial exhibits and they are locked at night (time to be determined).  We will probably use the Show Stage area which is off to the side of the Fairgrounds and make noise if we wish as there are literally no neighbors to piss and moan.  There are a couple of options and if you have any ideas please feel free to discuss them with our Director of On-Site Communications, Timothy M Smith, Esq.

TWO DAYS TO GO!!!!  YAY!!!!

73,

MisterMike
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: n1wil on May 02, 2007, 09:20:25 AM
Unfortunately, I was not able to get the length of cable necessary for the long balanced XLR run.  If anyone has something like this, feel free to bring it, else I guess we should do a wireless pickup for this time.  Maybe by Fall I'll have the cable.

I'll still bring the 800 Watt amp and speakers though.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Todd, KA1KAQ on May 02, 2007, 10:40:39 AM
Where is the "jam session" going to be? This will allow myself and others who may want to sleep to set up as far away as possible though in some respects I'm not sure why I should have to move to the outback, I paid for a ticket too.
I think that if we are trying to get established here that noise volume and lateness should be restrained for the neighbors and festees that don't want to party half the night. Everything in moderation.

Absolutely. We've actually discussed this a few times and decided that the midnight cut off is the way to go for the reasons mentioned above. Despite not having neighbors to contend with, we don't want to alienate the majority of patrons attending who sleep on site in tents, vehicles, and so on. I recall having to move my vehicle at Hopkinton a few years ago to minimize the noise. majority.

We realize that failure to deal with this makes it look like we are catering to the few, at the expense of the majority. While you can't please everyone all of the time, we do want to strike a good balance so that everyone feels welcome and wants to return.

As you said, everything in moderation. And a little bit of common sense goes a long way. Particularly since it will be an outdoor jam session.
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: n1wil on May 02, 2007, 11:21:31 AM
Of course, for those who want to stay up REALLY late, our crew on 90.5FM will be airing some nostalgic programming and other audio of special "ham" interest (provided by the almighty Mr. Mike, W1RC) beginning at midnight.  As it's over the airwaves, those who want to be up in the wee hours can do so and continue to socialize and trade stories without disturbing others. We might even open up a "talk show" over our onsite crossband repeater to discuss related issues, and stories - the audio of the crossband would simply be patched in over the board so listeners can hear and actively participate if they have a dual band HT or 440 HT. Maybe if the "Tron" is agreeable, we could have an "Ask the Tron" or "Tron Time" show which takes listener input!  How 'bout it Tim?  ;)

One of the many benefits of not having radio receivers built into our heads...  we can still sleep if we want to.

Of course, this stuff is reserved for the really late night "Hard Cores"!  But we will also air some select recordings throughout other parts of the day as well for those who won't be nocturnal.

 ;D
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Whoz Your Daddy on May 02, 2007, 07:30:25 PM
If you need a longer xlr cord they can be connected one to another! I'll bring a few!
The Ham-Jam has been part of the hamfest ever since I've been a ham. I remember my first hamfest, which was at deerfield. I remember jamming with Eliot and a bunch of other guys! Rochester jams we're cool, having a building to play in was great! Hopkington was alittle more spreadout but we had our jams there too! If we just watch the volume and agree to quit at a decent time we should have no problems!
I'll see you at the jam!
73's Rick
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: k1kfi on May 02, 2007, 10:07:42 PM
...Henry, glad to see you are coming to the fest!

Midnight would be a good time to put the tunes to bed....diehards could do accoustic after that....a thought! Since it is on an open air stage, I won't bring a keyboard...maybe next time...

I remember the last 'Hosstraders', the jamin' guys cut it at midnight and some of us actually got some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's!  I am sure it will work out fine. The weather down here on the cape cleared out today and the maps for New England look great for the next couple of days!

YAY!!!
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: mosby on May 02, 2007, 10:34:41 PM
$10 for parking ad $10 for the door - see you later
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: Nat on May 06, 2007, 10:44:27 AM
The stage for the jam session was a good idea, although it would have been even better to tootle on to midnite instead of 11. Even so we all had a great time! Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1RC on May 06, 2007, 12:32:47 PM
The police chief asked me if I could turn it off at 11:00.  I complied and so did you.  Thanks for the cooperation. 


The stage for the jam session was a good idea, although it would have been even better to tootle on to midnite instead of 11. Even so we all had a great time! Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: NEAR-Fest I Friday Night "Jam Session" Discussion & Coordination!
Post by: W1AC on May 06, 2007, 01:14:30 PM
I'd like to see the amateur performers up on stage before the pros: I was at the AM dinner, and by the time it was over I was too tired to perform.

Trust me, I do a great version of The White Collar Holler. Come see me in the fall ...

73, Bill W1AC