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ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« on: September 12, 2009, 03:17:12 AM »
OK, this is the Sixth NEAR-FEST.  At what point are you going to attempt to have an ATM at the fairgrounds?  There is one on 43S in a tiny ma-pa store that'll dispense at $100 max only increments.  And of course charge a NH size Fee (Tax) on each transaction.  not too many people are comfy carrying huge amounts of cash - some nice folks will take a deposit as you get the balace due.   

Also, in reading your 'history of Hosstraders' piece, it seems as though the Friday event happend by sheer popularity of the event, a one day (Sat) event stretched to two.  now it's in reality a Friday event with Saturday the scrap day and for all intents closing at noon Sat  ???(I've been to all of 'em and no way does it last till 2:00!!) This might be my last one, as the disorganization of where the food vendors are and the meandering trek one has to take to see any/all sellers is getting old - fast! it's beautiful country, yes, but not why people go to these events.  and please let the fairgrounds folks we will not steal the picnic tables - in May they were bolted and unuseable - would be nice to rest after a day of walking.

And lastly;  We are all electronic enthusiasts - can someone figure out a way to get a decent PA system up and running so that one can hear and understand any/all info messages from the hinterlands that people set up way way way beyond the relaxation area??  as it is - it's great if you're within 100 ft of the rest area, otherwise nothing!!

other than these areas, its a great time to meet old buddies and play at the friday nite jam session!!

 
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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 08:15:32 PM »
OK, this is the Sixth NEAR-FEST.  At what point are you going to attempt to have an ATM at the fairgrounds?  There is one on 43S in a tiny ma-pa store that'll dispense at $100 max only increments.  And of course charge a NH size Fee (Tax) on each transaction.  not too many people are comfy carrying huge amounts of cash - some nice folks will take a deposit as you get the balance due.   

Also, in reading your 'history of Hosstraders' piece, it seems as though the Friday event happend by sheer popularity of the event, a one day (Sat) event stretched to two.  now it's in reality a Friday event with Saturday the scrap day and for all intents closing at noon Sat  ???(I've been to all of 'em and no way does it last till 2:00!!) This might be my last one, as the disorganization of where the food vendors are and the meandering trek one has to take to see any/all sellers is getting old - fast! it's beautiful country, yes, but not why people go to these events.  and please let the fairgrounds folks we will not steal the picnic tables - in May they were bolted and unuseable - would be nice to rest after a day of walking.

And lastly;  We are all electronic enthusiasts - can someone figure out a way to get a decent PA system up and running so that one can hear and understand any/all info messages from the hinterlands that people set up way way way beyond the relaxation area??  as it is - it's great if you're within 100 ft of the rest area, otherwise nothing!!

other than these areas, its a great time to meet old buddies and play at the friday nite jam session!!

 

I am not sure as to what it would take to get a ATM there, but that could be handy for some folks.  Now the P.A. System that is another issue.  Getting things that would cover that area is a hard thing to do.  Now the pirate ship radio does broadcast the announcements so if you carried a small fm radio and tuned there signal in you could hear that when your about the rest of the grounds.

As far as the picnic tables that has to do with the fair grounds folks trying to keep there stuff safe from theft.  you could do like some folks do and bring your own chair to site in. there are also a few benches in the relaxation grove.

The closing time is just a time that has been set up to that they can have a time to shoot for to be out of the fair grounds.  The fair grounds people only allow them to be on the grounds from a set time.  In most events that you go to you will find once the grand prize drawing has been held everyone is running for the gate and many of the vendors that come in also have a drive to get home and they don't want to be there all after noon packing up, and once the drawing has been held the traffic flow that they see going by there table areas drops off.

Another thing you has to be kept in mind this is not Hoss Traders. It is similar but not the same.

Yes the jam is a place for some people to have fun and get together.  The rest of the event is a good time to be had by all who attend to meet up with friends and meet new friends from on the air.  also a good place to find some deals sometimes. (another mans junk is another mans treasure ).

Unrelated to the Novice part,  that is not about your license it is about your user status of the Near-Fest message board.


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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 11:07:49 PM »
Jim has responded to most of your complaints very adequately so I won't bother to elaborate on them any further.

An ATM would be far too costly for a contractor to install because it requires a dedicated telephone line in order to function.  Since the event is only of two days duration and the costs of the convenience has to be borne by you-know-who I don't see it as a viable option.  You're better off going to the "Mom-and-Pop" on 43 to get your dough if you're concerned about carrying cash.

I would hardly describe Saturday as a "scrap" day.  The people who attend determine what it is and what it will be.  Our gates are open from 0900 Friday to 1500 Saturday.  We provide a place to buy & sell, a place to eat and a place to pee.  People are free to come and go as they please.   We are all volunteers and are doing our best.  Remember, we give up our hamfest so you can enjoy yours.  It is what it is.

Some of us actually LIKE to meander around enjoying the beautiful Fairgrounds.  The food vendors locations are fixed in place.  The Church ladies, Gamil, Angelinos and Patty's Kitchen don't move. 

Remember Kingston and Rochester?  They were set up in an orderly  columns-and-rows grid-like fashion and they had absolutely NO character and charm whatsoever.  There were no trees or greenery - a parking lot would have done just as well. 

If the fact that "the disorganization of where the food vendors are and the meandering trek one has to take to see any/all sellers is getting old " disturbs you so greatly then perhaps you should stay home. No one has ever registered such a ridiculous complaint.

All the above not withstanding, you can feel secure bringing cash to Deerfield.

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 02:22:03 AM »
Bravo Mr. Mike
      You are spot on. In going to Deerfield for years I have never heard one complaint about anyone getting ripped or money disappearing. I have seen tables there with the items priced and a coffee can or other container on the table and the owner gone and you bought something by looking at the price, putting the money in the can and away you went.
       As far as "junk" day. Well I suppose if you don't have the ability to repair or build then just about everything there is "junk" Fortunately for the majority of people who go there that is not the case.
       Mike, you and the guys and the folks who ran it for years before are doing and did a great job. Thank you... Thank you ... Thank you...

All the ebst ... 73 ... Clarence ... VE1HD

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 02:31:42 PM »
Case in point: you have a significantly higher chance of getting ripped at a casino than at Deerfield.  I myself have left many expensive items unattended - never a problem.  As a community of electronics enthusiasts, most people who attend are looking out for one another.  Add to that, there;s so many people walking around, it would be darned near impossible to pull off a theft of any kind.  Unless of course, you leave stuff out at night - or leave money sitting around in the dark in plain view - in which case you probably deserve to be had. 

As for announcements, we broadcast them on 95.1FM, keep a small transistor radio in your pocket, you'll be "in the game" all the time, even well beyond the grounds.  After all, this is a RADIO festival right???  Broadcasting the announcements over the air in this way makes logical and logistical sense and preserves the tranquility of the grounds that so many come and enjoy, while at the same time keeping people informed & entertained.


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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 08:08:37 PM »
Well Done Mr. Mike
I have attended many of these events and the present operation is as good or better
as I have seen.
On one ocasion I purchased a multi band vertical antenna, and left it at the vendor's site. When I returned,the vendor had it packed and waiting for me. I was impressed.
As far as an ATM, Most people cary enough cash to purchase what they have in mind.
I never take enough to buy a new Hummer or a BMW.
The food vendors seem to be there when I feel hungry so I guess that is working well.
As far as I am concerned You and the Boys are doing a SUPER job and Most of us really
appreciate the effort it takes.

73's and See you in 22 days

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 02:30:26 PM »
I think we all know where we are going prior to arriving at the event, so a stop at an ATM would be well anticipated before arriving.  A lack of an ATM certainly doesn't deter my attendence, or any other Bluenoser's by the look of the forum...  We only had a chance to attend on Saturady last fall.  It was a great day.  Beautiful weather, wonderful location, and good food!  (Got to love that pizza) Even my XYL who doesn't have the affection for radio that I do, enjoyed herself.

Hope the leaves will still be on and in color!  Turning fast up here in Nova Scotia!

73, Dana

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 02:34:55 PM »
Rule #1 of any hamfest: If you're going there to buy, come prepared. Bring plenty of cash, a hand truck, a pickup truck, etc. Along with what MrMike says about the ATM requiring a phone line, they also require refilling. If you think not having an ATM is bad, imagine having one that the person ahead of you in line runs out of cash.

This might be my last one, as the disorganization of where the food vendors are and the meandering trek one has to take to see any/all sellers is getting old - fast! it's beautiful country, yes, but not why people go to these events.  and please let the fairgrounds folks we will not steal the picnic tables - in May they were bolted and unuseable - would be nice to rest after a day of walking.

It sounds like you're more adjusted to mall shopping with a food court, Radio shack, and benches than attending a hamfest. Folks who have been going to these events for many years seem to be able to manage just fine, some even bring chairs with them. Okay, many do. Even with a somewhat smaller footprint than the old Deerfield 'fests, there's still a lot of ground to cover over the two days. Next you'll be telling us you don't like it when it rains.

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And lastly;  We are all electronic enthusiasts - can someone figure out a way to get a decent PA system up and running so that one can hear and understand any/all info messages from the hinterlands that people set up way way way beyond the relaxation area??  as it is - it's great if you're within 100 ft of the rest area, otherwise nothing!!

I disagree with your first statement: it goes well beyond simply being an enthusiast for the thousands who have attended this 'fest and its predecessor going on 4 decades now. We look forward to it far more than a trip to a mall, yard sale, flea market, and most major holidays. It's not the location or convenience or opportunity to get a deal, it's the people and the atmosphere that make it what it is. It's an experience beyond simply the electronics that is slowly fading from life, something we want to preserve for as long as possible.

As far as the PA goes, rest assured that MANY more people complained about what seemed like endless PA announcements in the past constantly interrupting their conversations. The schedule of events and map posted around the 'fest and handed out at the gate should answer most questions, and if you're interested in door prizes, just hang around the Relaxation Grove area when a drawing is scheduled. Beyond that, the PA system is mainly for reminders.

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other than these areas, its a great time to meet old buddies and play at the friday nite jam session!!

Which really has nothing at all to do with Electronic enthusiasts or a hamfest, but is something we enjoyed in past years as an impromptu event and decided to incorporate into NEAR-Fest. There were some people who didn't want it at all, complained about it, wanted it removed. Fortunately for all of us, it's not practical to tailor the event to individual preferences. We try to provide something for everyone relating to our perspective of past events and the memories of what worked and what didn't. Honestly, those of us who put on the event would LOVE the freedom to do nothing but wander the grounds without being called away for questions or the little problems that arise. We accept that inconvenience if favor of keeping such an event alive for others like you to enjoy in the way that we have for so many years. While you may not find everything to your liking, you won't find another event like it.

It's what you make it. Plan for it in advance, and enjoy the very brief chance to see old friends, old gear, and to have fun in an old New England fairground.



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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 07:44:38 PM »
Well, since this topic has been beaten to death I thought I'd just look into the possibility of getting an ATM to see what it entails and here's the answer.

NO ATM (at least this time).

Eastern ATM services Deerfield Fair.  They had several ATM machines scattered throughout the site.  All require telephone lines to work and Deerfield Fair pays for them.  However Eastern ATM would not leave any machines after Sunday because "the carnies will steal them".

So hit your bank up before you come and bring plenty of ca$h so you can spend freely and liberally.

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 06:36:21 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 12:43:13 PM »
Since when are ATM's required at ham radio fleamarkets?? If you don't bring the $ then you can't haul home the treasure. It's called budgeting. If you keep your cash in your pocket and not on the ground, odds are it won't walk away.

No more whining. Lets have fun instead!

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2009, 10:41:33 PM »
FWIW, at least one of the commercial vendors is set up for credit card sales, too.

Looking forward to seeing you all next weekend.  And don't forget about Nutmeg Hamfest in Wallingford, CT this Sunday, 10/11.  www.nutmeghamfest.com

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Re: ATMs at NEAR FEST? any thought of organization this time?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 03:21:26 PM »
Again, we highly encourage everyone to carry a small FM-capable radio receiver with them so you all can hear everything that's going on without being chained to the Relaxation Grove.  Get out those transistor radios, old Walkmen, mp3 player w/ FM tuner etc. and tune into 95.1!! If you don't have one, you can probably pick one up at the fest for just a few dollars.  For those of you who are camping, if you have a boom box and you like Classic Rock, bring it along and crank it up so those who don't have radios can 'check in' while they are browsing your table of goodies.
The Deerfield Fairgrounds is not equipped with a grounds-wide PA system like Hopkinton was, so this the best we can do.
Also.....you have at least a few hours leeway to claim your raffle prizes, so you don't need to hustle right over to the Grove to get 'em!  Just stop by and check the board every now and then.
The golden circular Prize Drum will be right at the front of the stage, as always.  Please deposit tickets directly into the barrel.
If the Shriners have their barrel, it will be there too.

HAVE FUN! 8) (and please don't steal our pens!

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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 03:42:53 PM »
One last thing...
John and I would both ask that all requests outside of Fest-related news items for 'announcements' or 'paging' be limited to Emergencies or Lost-and-Found only.  We certainly want to help out, but we need to respect those who don't want to hear the PA barking in their face any more than they have to.  As always, if you need to turn something in for Lost-and-Found, you can bring it to the stage.

Thank you all, and let's have a great Fest!!

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 03:52:28 PM »
I would like an ATM because I am nervous about carrying money.
Last time I bought a TL-922 but somehow the guy took a credit card
However the rationale for not having one is substantial.
However if there was an ATM I bet the sales would be higher as people run out of cash
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