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RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« on: April 05, 2012, 12:00:24 AM »
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The new camper policy seems to include any vehicle whose purpose is for people to sleep in, and there is no distinction that I can find between parking it in the camping area (with electricity and water hookups) and parking at the seller site inside the fairground (no hookups).  My 23-foot motorhome is going to be full of stuff to sell, and my plan was to show up early Friday morning, set up, sleep in the camper at the seller site Friday night, and stay through Saturday.  I assumed that this would be at the $10 fee for vehicles inside the fairground.  Are my assumptions incorrect?

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Re: RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 01:30:34 AM »
Again, hope this is the right place for this...

The new camper policy seems to include any vehicle whose purpose is for people to sleep in, and there is no distinction that I can find between parking it in the camping area (with electricity and water hookups) and parking at the seller site inside the fairground (no hookups).  My 23-foot motorhome is going to be full of stuff to sell, and my plan was to show up early Friday morning, set up, sleep in the camper at the seller site Friday night, and stay through Saturday.  I assumed that this would be at the $10 fee for vehicles inside the fairground.  Are my assumptions incorrect?

Thanks...

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If you are a non commercial seller you will NOT be able to get in before 9:00am Friday.  Only the the commercial sellers get in at the 6:00am Friday.
Now if your camper is in the fairgrounds over night you will be charged by the Deerfield Fair Asscoc. as per the message about camping.  That rule applies to the whole fair grounds.
Please read the policy that Mr. Mike has posted, it will give you all the information.  here is the link.

http://near-fest.com/index.php?topic=961.0

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Re: RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 01:41:02 PM »
If you are a non commercial seller you will NOT be able to get in before 9:00am Friday.  Only the the commercial sellers get in at the 6:00am Friday.
Now if your camper is in the fairgrounds over night you will be charged by the Deerfield Fair Asscoc. as per the message about camping.  That rule applies to the whole fair grounds.
Please read the policy that Mr. Mike has posted, it will give you all the information.  here is the link.

http://near-fest.com/index.php?topic=961.0

Thanks, I did read that, along with everything else I could find that dealt with camping, before I made my original post.  I'm still a bit confused.

I will not be staying overnight Thursday night in the campground, only Friday night at my seller's space, and I will of course happily pay the $10 vehicle fee along with my personal admission fee.

I will be sleeping in a camper, at my seller's site, and not in the back of my large pickup truck which is about the same size as my camper.  I won't be plugging in to any electric services or water.  Does the fact that it's a camper and not a (same-size) pickup truck trigger the assessment of an extra fee above the vehicle and personal passes?

I can live with paying an extra fee, I guess, but it'd be helpful to know the rationale behind it since the camper will place exactly the same burden on the fairground resources as the truck would.

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Re: RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 10:24:21 PM »
I will be sleeping in a camper, at my seller's site, and not in the back of my large pickup truck which is about the same size as my camper.  I won't be plugging in to any electric services or water.  Does the fact that it's a camper and not a (same-size) pickup truck trigger the assessment of an extra fee above the vehicle and personal passes?

I can live with paying an extra fee, I guess, but it'd be helpful to know the rationale behind it since the camper will place exactly the same burden on the fairground resources as the truck would.

I don't know how rational it is but it's the way it is.  I think Jim, N1IPA did an excellent job explaining it. 

You know, we are very lucky the Fair Committee is not imposing a fee for everyone who stays on site overnight.  This probably would have killed off the two-day event which effectively would spell the end of NEAR-Fest as we know it.  Knowing what I know I can tell you they are being very reasonable with us; they are simply now requiring us to do what all others who use their facilities are required to do if they want to be there overnight.   These are their grounds and they make the rules.  There is no room for negotiations. 

I also want to point out that the fees they charge us for using the grounds have not gone up in six years.

For those who may have missed it, here is the policy:  If you have a camper, travel trailer, RV, motorhome, conversion van, converted school or passenger bus or any other vehicle whose primary purpose is for sleeping in or recreational use then you are required to pay the $30.00 a night camping fee.  Those setting up tents will pay $15.00 per night.  Many folks sleep in their cars or vans but if the vehicle doesn't fit the definition that the Fair Association has accepted then you don't have to pay.  However if you use electricity you should expect to pay $15.00 which is what the tenters pay per night. 

Look at it this way - we are helping the folks maintain these wonderful grounds and preserve them for the future.  The land is highly coveted by real estate developers who would love nothing more than to get their greedy hands on it for their own benefit.  Right now they are being forced to bury all the electric lines underground by the State and this is going to cost them $$$$$$. 

This isn't of our doing.  The Fair Association calls the shots.  They get the money - every dime.  We are merely the messenger.  I hope this is abundantly clear.

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Re: RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 04:15:26 PM »
Ok, sorry still a little confused.  If I park inside overnight on Friday only and use a tent and don't hook up to power its 10 +10+15=$35? Thanks for clarification.  Larry

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Re: RV's at seller sites, and the new "camper" fees
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 08:16:11 PM »
Ok, sorry still a little confused.  If I park inside overnight on Friday only and use a tent and don't hook up to power its 10 +10+15=$35? Thanks for clarification.  Larry
Yoi are correct in the cost will be $35.00 but you may hook up and use electricity because you're paying.

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